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Nvidia’s mobile GeForce GTX 1650 and GTX 1660 Ti give affordable gaming laptops more firepower

The GTX 1060’s years-long reign over the mainstream gaming laptop market is ending. On Tuesday, Nvidia announced that its GeForce GTX 1660 Ti and GTX 1650 GPUs are coming to gaming notebooks, where they’ll join the more powerful mobile GeForce RTX options introduced earlier this year. (Haven’t heard of the latter GPU? Surprise!)

Nvidia also announced the GeForce GTX 1650 desktop graphics card today.

Interestingly, Nvidia did not announce a non-Ti mobile version of the GTX 1660. Based on previous pricing trends, we’d expect the GTX 1650 to slip mostly into systems costing less than $1,100, while the GTX 1660 Ti will likely be reserved for laptops in the $1,000 to $1,600-or-so range. Beyond that lies the mobile RTX 2060’s territory.

These new GPUs should provide a substantial boost over their predecessors. While we haven’t had an opportunity to test any laptops equipped with Nvidia’s latest hardware yet, Nvidia says the mobile GTX 1660 Ti should be up to 1.5X faster than the mobile GTX 1060, while the mobile GTX 1650 can deliver up to 1.7X better performance than the GTX 1050.

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Don’t expect such a big leap in every game, though. The GeForce GTX 1650 and GTX 1660 Ti are built with Nvidia’s cutting-edge Turing GPU architecture (albeit without the RTX-exclusive hardware that enables real-time ray tracing). The Turing architecture overhauled how Nvidia GPUs handle certain tasks, splitting integer and floating point instructions into two separate pipelines that run simultaneously, rather than dropping both into a single pipeline and creating a logjam. That tweak helps Turing run much better in modern games that lean on asynchronous compute features, such as Strange Brigade and Rainbow Six Siege.

Look for bigger gains in titles like those, as you can infer from Nvidia’s performance numbers in this mobile GTX 1060 vs GTX 1660 Ti comparison:

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Performance can also vary based on whether your laptop’s equipped with a full-force version of these GPUs, or a more energy-efficient Max-Q variant. Nvidia says the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti will use 80 watts untethered, or 60W in its Max-Q form. The GTX 1650, meanwhile, can be configured for either 50W or 35W.

If you’re coming from an older laptop, you’re in for a big treat. Nvidia claims that 75 percent of GeForce-equipped notebooks in the wild pack GTX 960m performance or less. The GeForce GTX 1660 Ti stomps all over it.

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MSI GS65 Stealth Thin Review: This thin gaming laptop features 9th-gen Core and GTX 1660 Ti

The MSI GS65 Stealth Thin 9SD has a tradition to uphold. Its predecessor, MSI’s GS65 Stealth Thin 8RE, was the laptop that changed our perception of just how much real gaming performance you could pack into a thin-and-light gaming laptop. With the next generation, we find essentially the same winning laptop design, stuffed with the latest toys from Intel and Nvidia.

We’re not exaggerating about the original GS65 Stealth Thin 8RE’s wow factor, either. It was just a hair over 4 pounds, in the same weight class as a Macbook Pro 15 or ThinkPad X1 Extreme, yet it packed way more firepower. 

The newest incarnation of the MSI GS65 Stealth Thin 9SD ups the ante with Intel’s newest 6-core 9th gen Core i7-9750H, along with Nvidia’s gift to those who just don’t give a damn about ray tracing: A GeForce GTX 1660 Ti. Thanks to a slight lack of coordination between Intel’s and Nvidia’s product cycles. The GS65 Stealth Thin will find itself battling with laptops such as Acer’s Predator Triton 500  or Alienware’s m15 Thin, both of which feature older 8th-gen CPUs, but Nvidia’s newer ray-trace-enabled RTX GPUs.

MSI GS65 Stealth Thin 9th Gen Core i7-9750H Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Adam Patrick Murray

MSI’s updated GS65 Stealth Thin features a 9th-gen Core i7-9750H and Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1660 Ti GPU.

MSI GS65 Stealth Thin specs

As we said, the GS65 Stealth Thin is the first laptop we’ve reviewed with Intel’s 9th-gen mobile 6-core CPU. Let’s run down all the specs: 

  • CPU: Intel 6-core 9th gen Core i7-9750H
  • Memory: 16GB DDR4/2667 in dual-channel mode
  • GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
  • Display: 15.6-inch 144Hz “IPS-like” screen without G-Sync
  • Storage: 512GB WD SN520 NVMe M.2 SSD
  • Networking: 802.11ac using an Intel AC9560 controller and Rivet Networks E2500 Gigabit ethernet.
  • Dimensions: 14 x 9.75 x 0.75 inches
  • Weight: 4.4 pounds

That last bullet point is worth pointing out. While the original GS65 we reviewed last year was stupidly light at 4 pounds, MSI has added about 6 ounces to it. Some of that heft likely came from welcome structural reinforcements compared to the original run, which we called “flexible.” How flexible? Well, let’s just say it was a little scary to pick it up by one corner. The current version doesn’t flex much at all, but it’s definitely a little heavier unfortunately.

MSI GS65 Stealth Thin Ports

As a gaming and workhorse laptop, the GS65 brings on the ports. The right side gives you USB-A, Thunderbolt 3, miniDisplayPort and full-size HDMI. Careful observers will also note the dedicated power plug on the right side. That may tick off some right-handed gamers who don’t like power cords on the same side as their mousing hand, but MSI does at least provide a right-angle plug to make routing less obtrusive.

MSI GS65 Stealth Thin 9th Gen Core i7-9750H Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Adam Patrick Murray

The GS65 Stealth Thin 9SD controversially puts the power plug on the right side, which could annoy some gamers. 

On the left side you get two USB-A ports, an analog headphone port, mic-input, Kensington Lock Port, and gigabit ethernet using a Rivet Networks Killer NIC part (made by Atheros). For those seeking state-of-the-art 2.5Gb ethernet, the GS65 Stealth Thin isn’t there yet. To be fair, however, very few homes or offices have routers that could take advantage of it.

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MSI’s updated GS65 Stealth Thin features a 9th gen Core i7-9750H and Nvidia’s new GeForce GTX 1660 Ti GPU.

MSI GS65 Keyboard and Trackpad

For keyboards, you get a SteelSeries dome-type with per-key RGB lighting. The key action is good and features full-sized cursor keys. Overall, there’s no major faux pas, such as oddly placed or half-sized keys.

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Snag a powerful Dell G3 gaming laptop with a GeForce GTX 1660 Ti for only $880 today

Monday? Pfah. It’s never too early to start thinking about next weekend’s gaming possibilities, and a new rig to carry into battle. Best Buy is selling a powerful Dell G3 15.6-inch gaming laptop for $880. That’s $200 off the MSRP, and an all-around great price for a gaming rig packing so much power.

The Dell G3 features a 15.6-inch 1080p display, a quad-core (eight thread) 2.4GHz Core i5-9300H CPU, 8GB of RAM, a zippy 512GB NVMe SSD, and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti graphics card.

For ports, this laptop comes rocking two USB 2.0 connections, one USB 3.0 Type-C, and one USB 3.1 with a standard connector. There’s also one HDMI port, 802.11ac Wi-Fi, and ethernet. Dell built this laptop less than an inch thick and relatively light, as it is not carrying a DVD/CD drive. There are also two speakers equipped with Nahimic 3D audio for gamers.

Overall, this is a fantastic gaming laptop for the price. You don’t often see notebooks with discrete graphics this powerful for less than $1,000. 

We haven’t tested this version of the Dell G3, but we did review a mid-tier predecessor with the Core i5-8300H and a GTX 1050 Ti graphics card. On that model we found the display to be a little dim, but overall a great value. At almost the same price, and with a vastly more powerful graphics card, this newer G3 laptop should offer top notch 1080p performance.

[Today’s deal: Dell G3 gaming laptop with an GeForce GTX 1660 Ti for $880.]

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The Razer Blade Stealth 13 crams GTX 1650 graphics into a thin-and-light gaming laptop

The Razer Blade Stealth 13 could be “the world’s first gaming ultrabook,” as the company claims. It features Intel’s brand-new 10th-gen, 10nm Ice Lake Core i7-1065G7 inside, and—wait for it—a GeForce GTX 1650 GPU. 

On paper, we’d agree. Most thin-and-light laptops by definition remove any consideration of discrete graphics, because hot GPUs and tight spaces don’t mix well. There’s Huawei’s Matebook X Pro with its GeForce MX150, but that discrete GPU isn’t even formally considered a gaming part by Nvidia. The Razer Blade Stealth 13’s GeForce GTX 1650 is far more capable, but we don’t know just how fast Razer can run it in a laptop this small.

GPUs are even more limited by thermals and power than CPUs. The same GeForce GTX 1650, for example, will perform better in a larger, thicker laptop than a thinner one, as you can see below comparing the slender Dell XPS 15 against a beefy Acer Nitro 5.

Take that same GeForce GTX 1650 and drop it into a 13-inch chassis, and what will you get? We’ll have to wait for reviews to find out, but no matter what, it’s still likely to be far better than the 10-watt GeForce MX150 in the Matebook X Pro.

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GPUs are just as limited by thermals and power as a CPU.

Is it really an ultrabook?

We’re not even sure the Razer Blade Stealth 13 can call itself an ultrabook, let alone a gaming one. It measures about 12 inches wide, 8.3 inches deep, and about 0.6 inch thick (15.3mm.) It’s that thickness and the side view that’ll make you question its ultrabook claim. 

In the picture below, for example, the body looks like it should be shopping in the husky section of jeans.

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The Razer Blade Stealth 13 asks: “Does this GPU make me look fat?”

In reality though, it’s not that thick. In fact, if Razer’s claims of 15.3mm are true, it’s actually about 1mm thinner than an XPS 13 9380’s thickest portion. Look the picture of the XPS 13 9380, below. Even though its rear is actually thicker than the Razer Blade Stealth 13’s, the taper works like vertical stripes on a dress or suit and makes it appear thinner than it is.

dell xps 13 9380 ports Daniel Masaoka/IDG

The taper of modern ultrabooks make them appear thinner than they are.

At least you get the new parts inside. Besides the 10th-gen, 10nm Ice Lake Core i7-1065G7, you also get that CPU’s new support for LPDDR-X/3733 RAM. Razer correctly offers it with 16GB of RAM, unlike some makers who are dipping as low as 4GB.

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Walmart’s selling an Asus ROG Strix with a GTX 1660Ti and 120Hz display for $300 off

If you’re had your eye on a 1080p gaming laptop, today’s a good day to buy one: Walmart is selling a 15.6-inch Asus ROG Strix with an Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti for $1,000, $300 off its retail price and a great price for an excellent gaming experience.

The laptop features a four core, eight thread 2.4GHz Core i5-9300H CPU, 8GB of RAM, a 512GB NVMe SSD, and a 120Hz 1080p display. But even with the lack of G-Sync and a Core i5 instead of a Core i7, this laptop is rocking a whole lot of greatness. The 1660 Ti is one step up from our favorite 1080p gaming card, the GTX 1660. It also has an RGB keyboard with full N-key rollover for more accurate in-game keypresses, an RGB lightbar, and dual 12V cooling fans. For ports, you’ve got three USB 3.0, one USB 3.1 Type-C, HDMI out, and Ethernet. Wi-Fi is 802.11ac.

In a nutshell, this laptop’s specs are well worth the price, and it has enough “gamer aesthetic” to impress any RGB fanatic.

[Today’s deal: Asus ROG Strix 15.6-inch 1080p gaming laptop for $1000 at Walmart]

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Ludicrous: This Dell G3 gaming laptop with a GTX 1660 Ti is just $680

Hold onto your hats laptop gamers, because Best Buy is offering a jaw-dropping deal for early Black Friday shoppers. The big box retailer is selling a 15.6-inch Dell G3 with an Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti for $680. We would cover this laptop as a good deal at $800, but for $680 it’s simply outstanding.

This laptop packs a quad-core, eight thread Core i5-9300H processor with a base clock of 2.4GHz and a boost clock of 4.1GHz. The 8GB of RAM should be enough for the vast majority of games, even at high detail settings. Storage is handled by a speedy 512GB NVMe SSD.

But the star of the show is Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, an excellent graphics card for 1080p gaming. The GTX 1660 and 1660 Ti were our top choices for 1080p gaming not that long ago, but they’ve since been replaced by their cousin, the GTX 1660 Super . That said, the GTX 1660 Ti is still the most powerful member of the GTX 1660 family, and it should have no troubles powering games with no visual compromises on this laptop for years to come.

As for the display, it’s a standard 15.6-inch 1080p screen that should offer some glorious in-game views thanks to the graphics card. There’s also HDMI out if you’d like to game on a bigger screen, a built-in card reader, and 802.11ac Wi-Fi.

If you’ve been looking to get into mobile gaming without needing to break the bank, this is the deal you’ve been looking for. Don’t wait for Black Friday, snag it now.

[Today’s deal: Dell G3 gaming laptop for $679 at Best Buy.]

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An $800 GeForce GTX 1660 Ti laptop is a great deal. This Dell G3 is an absurd $700

The holiday season is the perfect time to find solid days on gaming gear. Right now, Best Buy is selling the 15.6-inch Dell G3 with an Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti for $700. That’s $200 off the sticker price, and well below the $800 we consider a great price for GTX 1660 Ti laptops.

Dell’s notebook features a 15.6-inch 1080p display, a 2.4GHz quad-core, eight thread Intel Core i5-9300H processor, 8GB of RAM, a speedy 512GB NVMe SSD, and the aforementioned GeForce GTX 1660 Ti.

With the Dell G3 you can expect excellent, no-compromises 1080p gaming with all the graphics settings cranked, even in the latest games. There’s also an HDMI out port if you’d like to game on a bigger screen. If you do so, you might be able to get some good entry level 1440p action out of this card, but we’d recommend sticking with 1080p for the best possible experience.

If you’re wondering which games to play on your new mobile rig check out our primer on 20 gorgeous PC games that will punish your graphics card. We just updated this article with a number of recent games such as Metro Exodus, which is part of Microsoft’s superb Xbox Game Pass for PC.

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GTX 1660 vs. GTX 1660 Ti vs. RTX 2060 | Spec Comparison

Nvidia’s midrange graphics lineup is far more robust in 2020 than it was this time last year, with a much broader array of options for gamers on a budget. Being spoiled for choice does have its own drawbacks though, namely that picking the right graphics card for you is much harder.

To see how these cards stack up against one another, we’ve pitted the GTX 1660 against the GTX 1660 Super, GTX 1660 Ti, and the RTX 2060, comparing their specs and features. Which will offer the most bang for the buck?

Availability and pricing

All four of the cards we’re comparing are available for purchase right now and in a staggering array of options. The RTX 2060 is the most straightforward of the three with Nvidia’s Founders Edition acting as a firm baseline. When in stock it starts at $300 for the KO edition, while overclocked cards or those with fancy cooling solutions can cost up to $370

There are no Founders Editions for the GTX 1660 Ti and 1660 Super, but those cards debuted with a bewildering number of third-party alternatives. The former sells for between $280 and $320, while the latter starts at $230, with the most expensive versions priced at around $270. The standard 1660 is the most affordable with a starting price of $220, but as you’ll see below, that’s a hard sell considering how far it falls behind the competitively priced Super version.

There are tons to choose from when it comes to all of these Turing cards, offering different clock speeds, cooling options, and lighting features. Some are a better value than others, but the cheapest offer the best return on investment in terms of performance, as we’ll see below.

Performance

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Nvidia has made a concerted effort to stagger its graphics card performance and the RTX 2060, GTX 1660 Ti, and 1660 occupy distinct price and performance brackets. A look at their raw specifications betrays the real-world performance of these cards as much almost as benchmarks have been able to do.

RTX 2060 GTX 1660 Ti GTX 1660 Super GTX 1660
GPU TU106 TU116 TU116 TU116
CUDA Cores 1,920 1,536 1,408 1,408
RT Cores 30 0 0 0
Tensor Cores 240 0 0 0
Core Clock 1,365MHz 1,500MHz 1,530MHz 1,530MHz
Boost Clock 1,680MHz 1,770MHz 1,785MHz 1,785MHz
Memory 6GB GDDR6 6GB GDDR6 6GB GDDR6 6GB GDDR5
Memory Speed 12Gbps 12Gbps 14Gbps 8Gbps
Memory Bus Width 192-bit 192-bit 192-bit 192-bit
Memory Bandwidth 336GBps 288 GBps 336GBps 192GBps
TDP 160w 120w 125w 120w

Based on the specifications alone we can surmise that the most powerful of the three cards is the RTX 2060, followed by the GTX 1660 Ti, then GTX 1660 Super, with the GTX 1660 trailing in the rear. The steps from each card are a little different, however. While clock speeds are relatively comparable across all four cards (and actually a little higher on the lower-end cards), the drop in CUDA cores from the RTX 2060 to the 1660 Ti is the main differentiating factor in performance. While the 1660 does take a step down in CUDA cores too, its use of GDDR5 memory leads to a 33 percent reduction in memory bandwidth.

That’s also where the GTX 1660 Super makes up its lower CUDA core count. With faster memory, it is much closer in performance to the 1660 Ti than its other specifications might suggest.

These differences play out like you might expect in games, although there is some variation depending on your desired quality settings and resolution. In all tests the RTX 2060 comes out well ahead of its GTX Turing counterparts, offering performance comparable to a GTX 1070 Ti, if not sometimes higher. The 1660 Ti follows up with between 15 and 25 percent lower frame rates, though it does beat important AMD competitors like the RX 590. It even poses a real challenge to the Vega 56 in some cases.

The GTX 1660 Super is typically within only a few frames per second of the 1660 Ti, making it arguably the most competitive buy among the 1660s. Especially since its price is so close to that of the stock 1660.

The GTX 1660 has a strong showing against a number of cards, providing a 10-20 percent improvement over the GTX 1060 6GB in most cases. It too challenges or exceeds the RX 590 and 580 in a number of games at both 1080p and 1440p, but falls behind the 1660 Ti by between 10 and 25 percent depending on the game being tested.

Ray tracing and DLSS

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Although the RTX 2060 has hardware-accelerated ray tracing support, the other cards do support it too, albeit in a limited capacity. Thanks to a driver update from Nvidia, all GTX cards from the 16 and 10-series can render ray tracing in-game, but without hardware acceleration using RT cores, performance isn’t great, even on high-end last-gen cards like the GTX 1080 Ti.

The difficulty with ray-traced lighting effects is that they are exceedingly GPU intensive to render. That’s why the RT cores are required and make such a difference on RTX cards; especially the higher-end ones. If you want to play ray traced games at comfortable frame rates, the RTX 2060 is the only card to opt for in this case, though it will still be limited to 1080p in most games. The GTX 16-series cards will let you get a look at what ray tracing looks like, but they won’t be able to play many ray-traced games at anything close to comfortable frame rates.

With that in mind, it’s unfortunate that deep learning super sampling support (DLSS) is restricted to RTX graphics cards. It requires Tensor cores to run and the GTX 1660, 1660 Super, and 1660 Ti just don’t have them, so they will not be able to use DLSS. The RTX 2060 can, and that could give it a further advantage when it comes to ray tracing, although the highly limited number of supported games right now makes it somewhat negligible. Furthermore, our experience of both features combined hasn’t been stellar so far.

You get what you pay for

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If $300 – $350 is too high of a price tag for you, then the GTX 1660 Super is the best value option of the bunch. The 1660 Ti is only a worthwhile investment if you can find it at a comparable cost. The level of performance is so close between the two cards that the Super, with its typical $50 to $100 savings, is a much better buy. It almost invalidates the RX 590 from AMD, although we occasionally see some heavily discounted RX 590s, which makes it an attractive alternative.

While the GTX 1660 is a solid choice, we wouldn’t put it at the top of our list. We think that for the same price, the AMD offers superior performance. That said, the GTX 1660 has vastly improved from the previous GTX 1060 model. The RX 580 and RX 590 are both viable alternatives. They can also be notably cheaper in some cases, especially when you factor in AMD’s incredible game bundles. This is where the availability and packaging options can make or break a deal. Packages are almost always a smarter option (and a better deal) than standalone cards. It’s important to note that availability (and retailer sales) can also factor into the equation and impact pricing. If you are looking for something a little more affordable with a similar speed, check out the RX 5500 XT.

These days, we don’t recommend springing for the factory overclocked versions. Factory overclocked items and stock items currently function equally, so overclocked items no longer boast the superiority they did in past generations. The price difference between factory overclocked items and the 1660 Super is too close to make them worth it.

Overall, the RTX 2060 is the best buy of the three because of its impressive performance capabilities. It has also received the most five-star reviews. It’s the kind of quality product you’ll have to pay a pretty penny for, and we know that it might be out of your reach if you’re on a modest budget. It still blows the Turing product competition out of the water and provides far better value for the price. Over time, it’s worth the investment for the RTX 2060 — even if you have to spend some time saving up to buy it.

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The Razer Blade 15 Advanced Model debuts with Nvidia GTX Super and Intel Comet Lake H

Razer has upgraded its premium Blade 15 with an Advanced Model (early 2020) that has all the newest toys.

Announced Thursday, the Blade 15 Advanced Model will move up from the previous model’s 6-core chip to Intel’s new 10th-gen Comet Lake H Core i7-108750H, which features 8 cores in a laptop Core i7 for the first time. 

At the same time, the Blade 15 Advanced Model will feature Nvidia’s newest GeForce RTX 2070 Super Max-Q and GeForce RTX 2080 Super Max-Q. Most gamers may focus on the ‘Super’ portion of the name, but the Max-Q part may be more important: Nvidia says its latest iteration of Max-Q gets a lot closer in performance to its standard “Max-P” GPUs.

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Razer’s Blade 15 (early 2020) will feature Intel’s 10th-gen Comet Lake H CPUs, 300Hz panels, and Nvidia’s Super GPUs.

Long called the “MacBook Pro” of PCs, the Razer Blade 15 brings many other changes with the Advanced Model. Gone is the optical switch keyboard of the previous model, though Razer retains the beautiful per-key RGB and has redesigned the key layout to be friendlier. Battery capacity remains the same at a fairly beefy 80 watt-hours. 

The other eyebrow-raising feature is the option for a 300Hz, 1080p wide-viewing-angle screen. Gamers who care about winning will want the 300Hz panel. Users who want a Blade 15 to edit photos and videos, or make everything look fabulous, may want to opt for the touch UHD 4K OLED panel. In addition to its insanely great black levels (thanks OLED!), the panel is rated to hit 100 percent of the DCI-P3 color gamut.

Even the ports hide a premium feature. The SD card reader supports UHS-III speeds, essentially doubling the throughput from an SD card to 624MBps on UHS-III SD cards that support it. 

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Razer’s Blade 15 (early 2020) will feature Intel’s 10th gen Comet Lake H CPUs, 300Hz panels and Nvidia’s Super GPUs.

One of the few downsides to the Advanced Model is its SSD design. Razer offers 512GB or 1TB NVMe SSD options, in a single M.2. If you want more storage in a Razer Blade 15, you can get that with the Base Model, which features two M.2 slots (with one filled, obviously).

The Base Model is otherwise somewhat limited. Its top CPU is Intel’s 10th-gen Core i7-10750H with 6 cores and Hyper-Threading. Graphics will vary from a GeForce GTX 1660 Ti to an RTX 2070. The signature per-key RGB lighting of the Advanced Model is swapped for a single-zone Chrome RGB keyboard. The base model also lacks Windows Hello biometric facial login features, and the battery steps down to 65 watt-hours. The Base Model starts at $1,600 with a GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, 6-core Core i7-10750H, 16GB of DDR4/2933 RAM, 256GB SSD, and 144Hz 1080p panel.

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Nvidia GTX 1650 Super vs. GTX 1650: The Budget Battle

Nvidia’s Super refresh of its RTX and GTX series of Turing graphics cards was swift, with the GTX 1650 Super landing just seven months after the standard GTX 1650.

Like other Super cards, the GTX 1650 Super improves on its older sibling in a number of ways. However, as of February 2021, the prices for both cards have shot through the roof, so much so that we wouldn’t consider them “budget” graphics cards at all.

Interested in more than just Nvidia’s budget cards? These are the best GPUs you can buy (when you can find them in stock).

Pricing and availability

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The GTX 1650 went on sale in April 2019 with a launch price of $150. As of February 2021, any GTX 1650s you can find in stock are twice as much or more. The cheapest card we could find was an MSI low-profile variant for $300. The card launched in late 2019 for $169.

The GTX 1650 Super debuted on November 22, 2019, with a launch price of $160. There are no Nvidia Founders Editions versions of these cards, so you’re only getting ones from Nvidia board partners. Like the GTX 1650, stock shortages of the Super variant have shot the prices up. The cheapest card we could find was going for $350, up from its $160 launch price.

As of early 2021, the pricing for both cards is terrible. Although Nvidia’s 30-series graphics cards are experiencing stock issues, too, the shortages mainly apply to the RTX 3080. Cards around $350, like the RTX 3060 Ti, are continually being restocked at major retailers. They just fly off the shelf within a matter of minutes.

Unfortunately, there isn’t a suitable replacement for the GTX 1650 or 1650 Super around $150. We wouldn’t recommend paying any more for these cards, especially as stock for the newer cards begins to normalize.

Performance

The GTX 1650 Super might have a similar name to the 1650, but that’s more for marketing than anything else. The 1650 Super is an altogether different GPU. It has substantially more CUDA cores than the 1650, as well as a higher clock speed and 50% faster memory. It’s a big upgrade. On paper, it’s within striking distance of a stock GTX 1660.

GTX 1660 GTX 1650 Super GTX 1650
GPU TU116 TU116 TU117
CUDA Cores 1,408 1,280 896
Base Clock 1,530MHz 1,530MHz 1,485MHz
Boost Clock 1,785MHz 1,725MHz 1,665MHz
Memory 6GB GDDR6 4GB GDDR6 4GB GDDR5
Memory speed 8Gbps 12Gbps 8Gbps
Bandwidth 192GBps 192GBps 192GBps
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In developing the 1650 Super, Nvidia gave it GDDR6 memory running at a faster clip than that found in the 1650 or the 1660. That’s what enables it to match the GTX 1660 in memory bandwidth, despite its narrower memory bus. It has a higher base and boost clock, but the biggest differentiating factor is the 42% increase in CUDA core count. That should, when combined with the other performance enhancements, deliver a noticeable improvement in the card’s capabilities.

That seems to play out in testing, too. In games where the standard GTX 1650 performed poorly, the GTX 1650 Super really picked up the slack. In TechPowerUp’s testing in games like Metro Exodus, we see the 1650 Super reach speeds in excess of the RX 580. In the Witcher 3, the 1650 almost catches up with the RX 590, where the standard 1650 falls well behind even the RX 570 and the GTX 1060 3GB.

TechSpot’s results echoed these findings, showing the GTX 1650 Super as an excellent 1080p video card, with no problem hitting a consistent 60 FPS in a number of games. Hardware Unboxed amalgamated 17 of its various game tests into one results graph and found that where the standard 1650 is often noticeably less capable than the 1060 3GB and RX 570, the GTX 1650 Super delivers performance that is within a few FPS of the RX 580.

This makes Nvidia’s budget graphics card line far more competitive, especially since with a little overclocking, you’re likely to be able to reach near-GTX 1660 speeds, saving yourself a lot of money in a tight and competitive price range.

What about ray tracing?

Both the GTX 1650 and GTX 1650 Super technically support ray tracing, thanks to Nvidia’s expansion of the previously-RTX-exclusive feature early in 2019. That said, neither of these cards sports the RT cores that provide hardware acceleration for ray-tracing calculations. We’ve seen previously that only the GTX 1080 Ti really has the general computing grunt to deliver even passable ray tracing experiences without those RT cores, so don’t expect to enjoy ray tracing in games with either of these cards at anything close to comfortable frame rates.

You can turn it on to see what it looks like, but it is almost certainly not going to be playable, regardless of your choice of game.

The upside is that you can still enjoy other Nvidia features like its support for Reshade post-processing effects in the Geforce Experience, and its NULL (Nvidia Ultra Low Latency) enhancement for competitive gaming.

The 1650 Super is the new 1650

With the way prices are right now, there is no point in buying a GTX 1650 or a GTX 1650 Super. Between the two, the GTX 1650 Super is a far better card, but it’s not worth twice its MSRP.

Considering the broad disparity in performance and the incredibly narrow difference in pricing, Nvidia will need to either drop the standard 1650 entirely or, more likely, adjust its pricing downward so it competes more directly with AMD’s ultra-budget cards, like the RX 560.

It’s hard to justify either in 2021, however, especially as games become more demanding and graphics cards more powerful.

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